i dont think its all talk, these are smart people that have been in ai since the 2000s, and they raise good points. current incentive structures are very dangerous long term
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creator of textlogreplied to@jamesjan3profilefollowresearcher, developer, dancer:they too have every incentive to exaggerate because they are selling safety and/or books on the topic. I donโt believe we wonโt see it coming. Any issues that will manifest will be very visible and weโll have plenty of time to mitigate their impact.
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creator of textlog:they could be making a lot more money by just working at ai firms i fear. the thing that got me worried the hacking incidents lately, huggingface etc.
if the capabilities consistently outspeed the development of safety measures, and if the private arms race logic continues, i dont think this is a good spot to be in long term
@klumbering๐คกprofilefollowFirst thing to say is, I hope the owners of Chatgpt Claude Gemini and Others gets bloodeagled for making their unwanted baby, anyways Hello =)wrote:
wow i didnt know that nope too late im already dead was made by one of favourite youtubers thats now like in the title, dead
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People have no idea how many news websites, SaaS websites, and apps I would subscribe to at prices of $30/year or less ($2.50/month).
@gikkmanprofilefollowreplied to@rickyprofilefollow#Automationnotesfollow specialist for #CreditUnionsnotesfollow; 20+ year #SharePointnotesfollow veteran; #developernotesfollow; #writernotesfollow. I don't idle well.:
I've been curious about the reasoning for prices too. Like, there has to be research behind it... But I agree it is far easier to buy four 2.5โฌ services than one for 5
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Finally got around to setting up Remux on my phone so I can connect to tmux sessions when I'm not at my laptop. Even just for around the house, this seems like it'll be super useful.
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creator of textlog:This is for monitoring/poking agentic coding sessions while I'm not at my computer. So, typically Claude, Emacs, and an overmind process running my app locally in different panes of a tmux window.
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Call me old fashioned, but instead of adopting one of the "agentic coding orchestration frameworks" that seem to basically be reinventions of tmux, I've been tweaking my tried-and-true tmux-oriented workflow to incorporate agentic coding harnesses in an ergonomic way. I'm currently still using Claude Code, but getting Pi-curious as local models advance.
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"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ Sid Meyersreplied to@evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineerGitHubevnm - Overviewevnm has 51 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub., trail runnerStravaSignup for free to see more about LawrenceJoin Lawrence and get inspired for your next workout, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeownersgetonmain.comMain ยท A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.:
"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ Sid Meyersreplied to@evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineerGitHubevnm - Overviewevnm has 51 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub., trail runnerStravaSignup for free to see more about LawrenceJoin Lawrence and get inspired for your next workout, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeownersgetonmain.comMain ยท A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.:I will be dead, and many years will pass after that, before local models are capable to match those of the big companies, unless their intended use is banal.
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"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ Sid Meyers:
"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ Sid Meyers:It seems like we've reached a point where mid-grade frontier models like Sonnet are good enough for most day-to-day tasks. And Sonnet-grade models are already runnable on the higher end of consumer hardware.
In which case, I can imagine a workflow where local models serve as workhorses for implementing plans that you may bump up to e.g. Opus or Sol to produce.
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if used in a certain way, yes
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What about horseradish?
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prefer the tone of wasabi, cleaner notes
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Same with the Steam Machine. They could have been awesome offerings for a lot of different use cases, but alas, being able to generate memes with grandma's pictures is of the utmost importance...
@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโฆmostlywrote:
Writing.
I want to do it, very badly.
I just don't want to be bad at it.
You have to be bad at it in order to get good at it. But...
Catch 22 isn't it?
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@dc๐profilefollowreplied to@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโฆmostly:
I think reading helps quite a bit, especially writing about what youโve read, even to yourself, just so you can go through the process of having to explain something that youโre only recently familiar with. Thereโs something about that process that seems to be helpful, at least to me.
@prtys๐คกprofilefollowreplied to@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโฆmostly:
Same.
The way I consume information influences how I think. Short form content makes my thinking fragmented without a clear structure. I feel that fragmented thinking won't lead to convincing writing. And I'm trying to regain some of that lost control.
@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโฆmostlyreplied to@prtys๐คกprofilefollow:
Very interesting! I think something along those lines might be happening for me too.
Another aspect, always cooking in the back of my mind, "if you can't explain it well, don't explain it at all."
@kev๐งprofilefollowrunner. making games, music, software. getting into as much trouble as i can.replied to@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโฆmostly:
The fear of being bad at it is the only thing holding you back. I experienced something like that with playing music with others. Perhaps you could learn to lay down your critical brain during the creation process and that good/bad isn't a useful distinction until later when you're editing your work.
@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโฆmostlyreplied to@kev๐งprofilefollowrunner. making games, music, software. getting into as much trouble as i can.:
Yeah, this is pretty much what I can't do. My critical brain has a lot of power. It's very evolved at this point :/
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creator of textlog:Morning! What's on the docket today?
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In the middle of migrating very old, homegrown tomfoolery into a more modern stack. Fun and vexing at the same time. This codebase has all of the bad decisions. All of them.
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