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@personprofilefollowwrote:
VirtualBox 7.2.20 telepรญtve, ami egy รผgynรถki sandbox vagy homokozรณ, mรกr csak egy .iso lemezkรฉpfรกjl hiรกnyzik, de abbรณl รกltalรกban mindig hiรกny van nรกlam, nem is รฉrtem, miรฉrt, amรบgy sejtem, csak ilyenekrล‘l nem szoktam beszรฉlni...
VirtualBox 7.2.20 installed, which is an agent sandbox, the only thing missing is an .iso image file, but I usually always lack that, I don't even understand why, I guess, I just don't usually talk about things like that...
@prophetorit๐Ÿ’งprofilefollowgrand and intoxicating innocencewrote:
why do I love characters who are evil? is this just my coping mechanism? or am I a bad person? oh, why am I this way..!?
@dangerprofilefollowdanger.techwrote:
working on permanent.sh a coding agent for the growing and seemingly permanent underclass of people that are left behind by the unbelievable pace of progress in ai the big labs are fighting over felonybench (exploitbench) and google deepmind ceo left to work on drug discovery
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@n5l๐Ÿ˜Žprofilefollowwrote:
Is this true? Sometimes, AI allows for socratic thinking, this is, the conversation with the machine allows the thinker to go further as the AI thorws ideas to the conversation. Many times, the AI reasoning is not good enough, but like a friend that says a funny think that sparks an idea, the AI can help our brain to see other possible paths. The AI doesn't need to be right to be helpful
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@maxinedotdev๐Ÿง™profilefolloweat, get a new hobby, sleep, repeat maxine.devreplied to@n5l๐Ÿ˜Žprofilefollow:
that's only true if a) that "rubber ducky" entity is not leading the line of thinking down the wrong path, and b) the human thinker is actually doing the critical thinking, and not the machine. The latter is where my criticism of unbridled AI use is in this case, wherein the human becomes the rubber ducky instead of the other way around.
@n5l๐Ÿ˜Žprofilefollowreplied to@maxinedotdev๐Ÿง™profilefolloweat, get a new hobby, sleep, repeat maxine.dev:
Indeed. The AI throws back ideas, but it is the human who must do the heavy lifting. In this regard, the AI is a sort of mirror, it reflects what you send it, showing another side the object. But if the human messages are bad, the AI will respond with bad quality answers.
@pcprofilefollowwrote:
When I was 10, I thought I'd be a scientist I wanted to tinker in a lab, doing something with beakers and bunsen burners Making a difference. As an adult, I sit in meetings and discuss who to fire next I tinker with spreadsheets, doing something with LLMs and JIRA Be enthusiastic #poemnotesfollow #aifearnotesfollow
@sodapopcanprofilefollowMillenial/Xenial who used to be really excited about programming.replied to@pcprofilefollow:
As young kid I dreamed of working with reel-to-reel machines Cutting/splicing tape, happy accidents As a teen I couldn't afford reel-to-reel but got decent with multi-track cassettes Everyone was telling me digital was The Way (tm) In my 30s, I finally learned how to use a DAW properly In my 40s, I'm back to playing around with multi-tracks cassettes There is no money in it, but I'm enthusiastic as I can be (this is not so much as direct response as simply a response) #musicnotesfollow #aifearnotesfollow
@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogreplied to@jojoprofilefollowBelieve powerful technology and ease of use can be combined. 46elks founder, an SMS and telephony API for Europe based in Sweden, 15 years in the running.:
woo that was great, happy for him! I had an Amiga too :D remember all that era so this demo resonated a lot
@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostlywrote:
The rho coding harness Iโ€™ve made has come along way and Iโ€™m constantly trying to evolve it, but whenever I go back to pi itโ€™s startling the difference of what a solid computer science background brings.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowwrote:
Really glad to be using Haskell for work - especially in today's climate with agentic coding. Our team uses containers to keep our development environment consistent across team members, though, and most agent sandbox approaches want to either offload your work fully to the cloud or they want to sandbox the agent harness process itself. We're not ready for full cloud based development (yet?) and sandboxing just the agent doesn't work for us when the agent needs to run docker. #haskellnotesfollow #ainotesfollow
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
... because letting the agent run docker gives them a too-easy escape hatch from their sandbox. So we're currently stuck with using VMs. This turns out to be tricky but seems do-able. My current approach is to provision a VM image and use Incus for the execution. My main goal is to keep my current workflow of local/non-agent dev working seamlessly and share the source with the VM/agent.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
This means sharing my working dirs with the agent VM but overlaying artifact dirs from VM-owned block devices so we don't take too big of an IO perf hit. I also don't want the agent to be able to git push so that means we need some quirky git config to rewrite origin paths and thread through some agent specific PATs ("thanks" GitHub) for read-only repo access. These ALSO need to be threaded through to the development containers - they need to clone private repos.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
... in the end, this seems to work but I haven't lived with it for long. There are still some quality of life issues to work out, but I think it'll work out. At this point, I've removed all coding agents from my host - and that's nice.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowreplied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
It's tangential to the sandboxing topic, really. I started the first post with a broader intent in mind and then elaborated on the sandboxing setup I'm working on. For AI-assisted coding, though, it's nice because Haskell provides a lot of feedback earlier in the development process compared to lots of other languages. It tends to work once it compiles (obviously not all the time).