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@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.wrote:
So much present tense in #ainotesfollow generated prose. Terse, authoritative sentences, without breathing room, without hesitation or qualification. It jumps off the page, and not in a good way.
@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.:
What about the lack of density to paragraphs, the length of the sentences, or the confidence and determinism of their direction? Conviction with no limits. So reliably repetitive that you start seeing patterns as if you are looking and reading a record player with some scratches on it. Skips. Squeaks. Repeats. Yet. It gets the job done.
@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.replied to@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.:
Yet. It gets the job done. Here's where we disagree. Using these tools as part of the job, certainly. But if I am to read, discern meaning, analyze choices of diction and structure, consider the context both of the author and the audience, and finally derive value from the written word, then generative #ainotesfollow falls short on many levels. If the "job" is to produce something no one was ever intending to engage with, then we have a more fundamental question about the value of the job.
@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.:
Maybe what I messaged read as a disagreement and mentioning that they get the job done was actually not about producing prose (of any quality). I wholeheartedly agreed and still agree with you. Getting the job done was more about producing output - be it some prose, images, videos, software, whatever. They do generate output. It is not to say that the output is meaningful or meaningless. Some souls do enjoy it. Some others - donโ€™t. I did start with a question though.
@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.wrote:
Happy [no] Labor Day to those in the U.S.!
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@tel๐Ÿ˜ดprofilefollowI really enjoy learning, I really enjoy making. I'm learning to be less guarded.replied to@bobbyprofilefollow:
I think short urls are still memorable and good. My phone doesn't surrogate all of my recall.
@hippo๐Ÿฆ›profilefollowStrictly no LLMs. No exceptions.replied to@tel๐Ÿ˜ดprofilefollowI really enjoy learning, I really enjoy making. I'm learning to be less guarded.:
Short URLs are good. Memorable URLs are good. URLs spat out by URL shorteners are something entirely different.
@sicilicaprofilefollowreplied to@bobbyprofilefollow:
The longer the text you need to store, the bigger a QR code needs to be in order to scan reliably. Also, you might be more confident in being able to keep a short URL stable (it's already a step of indirection, so if you want to reorg your site you can just update where the short URL points to). But people don't really take care to maintain short URLs anyway, apparently.
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@prophetorit๐Ÿ’งprofilefollowgrand and intoxicating innocencewrote:
I'm a mouse! โ€ฆโ แ˜›โ โฬคโ แ•โ แท
@banadweprofilefollowLinux, MySQL, privacy, self hosting and calmreplied to@chanuxprofilefollowI ain't no nothing!:
You don't love writing YAML all day and debugging stupid pipelines that download the same binaries thousands of times a day while wondering why we spend so much on bandwidth?
@egeprofilefollowcheck out my blog: hypersubject.netege's webloghypersubject.netHi! Iโ€™m ege. Welcome to my corner of cyberspace. The following is for you to make sense of who I am. It is an attempt to make myself legible to you. So you can label and categorize me and decide if Iโ€™m worthy of your time and attention.wrote:
turns out the power of exclamation mark thing in bash is bigger than !$ and !!. i learned a few tricks from refp.se/โ€ฆ/your-shell-and-the-lazy-exclamation-markrefp.seA shell exclamation mark is not for yelling. Be lazy. | Filip Rosรฉen - refp.seEvent designators have been hiding in not-so-plain-sight since the late 1970s โ€” so powerful that forgetting might be part of a massive conspiracy to wear out developer keyboards faster than otherwise., worth reading!
@ryuichiprofilefollowwrote:
I like this, it feels like Reddit before what it is now, but I feel like it wonโ€™t be long until the internet destroys this place. Until then Iโ€™m happy to be here.
@procyon๐Ÿฆprofilefollowlate is the hour in which this conjuror chooses to appearreplied to@ryuichiprofilefollow:
My favorite part of classic reddit was the use of elaborate hacks to circumvent the restrictions on custom subreddit CSS. E.g. animated gifs weren't allowed, so people made filmstrip sprites with stepwise animation in such a way as to look exactly the same.
@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogreplied to@fastidiousprofilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ€” Sid Meyers:
Yes! I was thinking of doing the same, see &2912
@stagasprofilefollowreplied to@hippoprofilefollow:
ooh maybe I revive hallucinate.site and add this feature but instead of being able to modify everything it would be limited to adding features to the game/world. And itโ€™s the perfect domain, a site thatโ€™s been entirely mostly hallucinated.
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@hotterprofilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.wrote:
Returned after a ride on bikes around the lake with the boy. Did stop for workout, ๐Ÿ‹๏ธโ€โ™‚๏ธ did pull-ups, push-ups and squats. Love the place we live in.
@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.wrote:
@michaelprofilefollowMac user since before it was cool. Interested in #html, #css, #php, #swift, and lightweight software. Not really Windows compatible I suck at picking nicknames anyone interested in lightweight apps especially on macOS gets my follow
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@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogwrote:
NIH syndrome? I am guilty of it too. I love implementing things from scratch, you learn a lot by doing so and you get to own the codebase end-to-end, so no surprises and fighting around othersโ€™ choices. It can get exhausting too though, in the end I succumb to using off-the-shelf components because my primary goals move at a higher level.
@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostlyreplied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
I don't see much point in trying to build software at a "higher level", like whole products and services. I'm going to go down low and train myself on the fundamentals. Hopefully in time I'll be able to contribute to the foundational bits. You're right, it does get exhausting. At some point you just want to rebuild everything, which is not possible.
@unsayprofilefollow#minneapolisnotesfollowreplied to@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostly:
I'm going to go down low and train myself on the fundamentals. When I wrote an HTTP sever (albeit HTTP/1.1), I learned how primitive the HTTP protocol its magic became a skill. It is freeing understanding how things work and allows me to choose where to spend time with more intention.
@cfiggprofilefollowwrote:
The essential work of #programmingnotesfollow is building the theory of the problem + solution. Theory then enables creation of working code. In the end, the code is necessary, but it is not sufficient. Theory is indispensable. (cf. Peter Naur, 1985)