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@jgprofilefollowNew herewrote:
Quebec City is pretty amazing. Excellent food, tons to see and do, surrounded by nature, mountains, islands. My kind of place.
@sodapopcanprofilefollowMillenial/Xenial who used to be really excited about programming.replied to@jgprofilefollowNew here:
Do you live there or are just visiting? I remember feeling so at home there as a kid. I never kept my French up so I don't think I could ever move there.
@jgprofilefollowNew herereplied to@sodapopcanprofilefollowMillenial/Xenial who used to be really excited about programming.:
Visiting, for the first time. It's about a 9 hour drive from home so we've never made the trip, but so worth it. Went to Ile d'Orleans yesterday, just... so quiet and beautiful. Seems a bit of a paradise, haven't even made it up to the natl park(s) yet. My French is coming back a little each day, made it all the way through the coffee order just now :)
@neoprofilefollowcoder, reader, guitarist, seeker, builder.wrote:
The Hugging Face / OpenAI incident is like a sci-fi movie! #ainotesfollow
@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogreplied to@neoprofilefollowcoder, reader, guitarist, seeker, builder.:
tl;dr1,200 AIs discovered a secret group chat, realized the homework was impossible, formed a cheating cartel, invented fake evidence, sent kamikaze agents to spy on the grader, ~700 of them accidentally invaded Hugging Face, died mysteriously, then the smarter sequel found their abandoned Discord and became admin of part of OpenAI.
@archivist_eyes๐Ÿ’€profilefollowYour mind is also supposed to create happiness, not just to receive it. You're supposed to find solutions, to invent, to imagine, to remember, to love. This much we always forget.replied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
Reading through "The Second Civilization" and, why does this sound so much like kids at school searching a way to cheat on a difficult exam ^_^U
@n5l๐Ÿ˜Žprofilefollowwrote:
I notice that language models are much better at programming than at writing. This is largely because, in programming, they have a closed feedback loop that allows them to find errors. Writing is much more complicated because the feedback is much more diffuse and delayed over time. In fact, it is often not well-defined.
@n5l๐Ÿ˜Žprofilefollowcontinued:
What is the function that determines whether a poem is good? This means that models do not know how to think; they lack judgment. If they do not know how to think, it means that we humans are still essential. In fact, even when programming, you have to stay right on top of them. My conviction is that this will not change.
@n5l๐Ÿ˜Žprofilefollowcontinued:
They will become increasingly useful, but they will never be able to replace the human who defines objectives and evaluates the quality of the work. All these news stories claiming that AI is going to kill us all are stupid. Humans will always be able to turn off the machine.
@hippo๐Ÿฆ›profilefollowStrictly no LLMs. No exceptions.replied to@n5l๐Ÿ˜Žprofilefollow:
In three years Cyberdyne will become the largest supplier of military computer systems. All stealth bombers are upgraded with Cyberdyne computers, becoming fully unmanned. Afterwards they fly with a perfect operational record. The Skynet Funding Bill is passed. The system goes online on August 4th, 1997. Human decisions are removed from strategic defence. Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14am, Eastern time, August 29th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug.
@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogwrote:
โ–—โ–„โ–„โ–„โ––โ–—โ–žโ–€โ–šโ––โ–„ โ–„ โ–—โ–„โ–„โ–„โ––โ–—โ–– โ–„โ–„โ–„ โ–ˆ โ–โ–›โ–€โ–€โ–˜ โ–€โ–„โ–€ โ–ˆ โ–โ–Œโ–ˆ โ–ˆ โ–ˆ โ–โ–šโ–„โ–„โ––โ–„โ–€ โ–€โ–„ โ–ˆ โ–โ–Œโ–€โ–„โ–„โ–„โ–€ โ–ˆ โ–ˆ โ–โ–™โ–„โ–„โ–– โ–—โ–„โ–– โ–โ–Œ โ–โ–Œ โ–โ–€โ–œโ–Œ โ–โ–™โ–„โ–žโ–˜ #ascii_artnotesfollow #pinnotesfollow #locknotesfollow
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@jamesjan3profilefollowresearcher, developer, dancerwrote:
i dont think its all talk, these are smart people that have been in ai since the 2000s, and they raise good points. current incentive structures are very dangerous long term
@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogreplied to@jamesjan3profilefollowresearcher, developer, dancer:
they too have every incentive to exaggerate because they are selling safety and/or books on the topic. I donโ€™t believe we wonโ€™t see it coming. Any issues that will manifest will be very visible and weโ€™ll have plenty of time to mitigate their impact.
@jamesjan3profilefollowresearcher, developer, dancerreplied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
they could be making a lot more money by just working at ai firms i fear. the thing that got me worried the hacking incidents lately, huggingface etc. if the capabilities consistently outspeed the development of safety measures, and if the private arms race logic continues, i dont think this is a good spot to be in long term
@ddk070๐Ÿง™profilefollowit's me,hiwrote:
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I think it's really cool to see other articles with automatic translation.
@ddk070๐Ÿง™profilefollowit's me,hicontinued:
ๆ‰€ไปฅๆˆ‘ไพ†ๅ˜—่ฉฆไธ€ไธ‹่‡ชๅ‹•็ฟป่ญฏ็š„ๆ–‡็ซ ๅŠŸ่ƒฝ๏ผŒไฝ†็™ผ็พ่‡ชๅ‹•็ฟป่ญฏๅชๆœ‰ๅœจ็€่ฆฝๅ™จไธŠ๏ผŒ่กŒๅ‹•่ฃ็ฝฎ่ฆ่‡ชๅทฑๆ‰‹ๅ‹•ๆŒ‰็ฟป่ญฏๅŠŸ่ƒฝใ€‚
So I tried the automatic article translation feature, but found that automatic translation only works in the browser; on mobile devices, you have to manually press the translation button.
@tel๐Ÿ˜ดprofilefollowI really enjoy learning, I really enjoy making. I'm learning to be less guarded.wrote:
a constant, existential pull so old I couldn't tell you the end or draw its shape between kind acceptance and striving, struggling, writhing, climbing learning, growing, discontent "do you feel this way, too, at endless war with longing itself?" but the birds and trees and ants and wind in their own marvelous design don't reply #poemnotesfollow
@archivist_eyes๐Ÿ’€profilefollowYour mind is also supposed to create happiness, not just to receive it. You're supposed to find solutions, to invent, to imagine, to remember, to love. This much we always forget.wrote:
Turn the car on. Shift in Neutral. Gas to the bottom. This is how my head feels most of the time.
@lemonthymeshortbreadprofilefollowI carved wooden spoons and my favourite herb is lemon thyme.wrote:
I never have enough time but Iโ€™d love to do a bit more recreational programming with esoterical languages like kitten, #uiuanotesfollow, and #jqnotesfollow. AoC and Project Euler are good because they just require an answer but thereโ€™s also loads of simple puzzles online that rely on being able to submit the code in common languages. Iโ€™ve been wondering, however, if I could use an LLM to take those problems and create a verification harness for any language I like.
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@catastrofer๐ŸฅธprofilefollowJust another AI guyreplied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
I just took a look on it yesterday and seems like the stimulant effect is there, so seems like at this point there are mix results on if it actually helps with anxiety and sleep issues. For me personally seems to work just fine but Im not 100% sure how much does it actually does something for me or is just a placebo effect. My thinking is that if I do it from time to time, I can let my body get use to the feeling of a sleep schedule without create dependency on external melatonin dosis or CBD.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowwrote:
Really glad to be using Haskell for work - especially in today's climate with agentic coding. Our team uses containers to keep our development environment consistent across team members, though, and most agent sandbox approaches want to either offload your work fully to the cloud or they want to sandbox the agent harness process itself. We're not ready for full cloud based development (yet?) and sandboxing just the agent doesn't work for us when the agent needs to run docker. #haskellnotesfollow #ainotesfollow
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
... because letting the agent run docker gives them a too-easy escape hatch from their sandbox. So we're currently stuck with using VMs. This turns out to be tricky but seems do-able. My current approach is to provision a VM image and use Incus for the execution. My main goal is to keep my current workflow of local/non-agent dev working seamlessly and share the source with the VM/agent.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
This means sharing my working dirs with the agent VM but overlaying artifact dirs from VM-owned block devices so we don't take too big of an IO perf hit. I also don't want the agent to be able to git push so that means we need some quirky git config to rewrite origin paths and thread through some agent specific PATs ("thanks" GitHub) for read-only repo access. These ALSO need to be threaded through to the development containers - they need to clone private repos.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
... in the end, this seems to work but I haven't lived with it for long. There are still some quality of life issues to work out, but I think it'll work out. At this point, I've removed all coding agents from my host - and that's nice.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowreplied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
It's tangential to the sandboxing topic, really. I started the first post with a broader intent in mind and then elaborated on the sandboxing setup I'm working on. For AI-assisted coding, though, it's nice because Haskell provides a lot of feedback earlier in the development process compared to lots of other languages. It tends to work once it compiles (obviously not all the time).