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@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowwrote:
Really glad to be using Haskell for work - especially in today's climate with agentic coding. Our team uses containers to keep our development environment consistent across team members, though, and most agent sandbox approaches want to either offload your work fully to the cloud or they want to sandbox the agent harness process itself. We're not ready for full cloud based development (yet?) and sandboxing just the agent doesn't work for us when the agent needs to run docker. #haskellnotesfollow #ainotesfollow
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
... because letting the agent run docker gives them a too-easy escape hatch from their sandbox. So we're currently stuck with using VMs. This turns out to be tricky but seems do-able. My current approach is to provision a VM image and use Incus for the execution. My main goal is to keep my current workflow of local/non-agent dev working seamlessly and share the source with the VM/agent.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
This means sharing my working dirs with the agent VM but overlaying artifact dirs from VM-owned block devices so we don't take too big of an IO perf hit. I also don't want the agent to be able to git push so that means we need some quirky git config to rewrite origin paths and thread through some agent specific PATs ("thanks" GitHub) for read-only repo access. These ALSO need to be threaded through to the development containers - they need to clone private repos.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
... in the end, this seems to work but I haven't lived with it for long. There are still some quality of life issues to work out, but I think it'll work out. At this point, I've removed all coding agents from my host - and that's nice.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowreplied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
It's tangential to the sandboxing topic, really. I started the first post with a broader intent in mind and then elaborated on the sandboxing setup I'm working on. For AI-assisted coding, though, it's nice because Haskell provides a lot of feedback earlier in the development process compared to lots of other languages. It tends to work once it compiles (obviously not all the time).
@ku๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am kuwrote:
tell me if this makes sense to you: not all expensive chairs are worth a lot but the chairs that are worth a lot cost a lot of money
@asmund๐ŸฅทprofilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.replied to@ku๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am ku:
Maybe adjust the last part to โ€œmost Chairs that are worth a lotโ€ฆโ€ - because I guess there are chairs that are inexpensive but still good and thus could have cost a a lot?
@ku๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am kureplied to@asmund๐ŸฅทprofilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.:
my guess is the inexpensive chairs can be a good value for the price you pay but I doubt there are many of any chairs that are inexpensive and yet worth a lot
@personprofilefollowwrote:
hรกt, jรณ, รฉppen telepรญtem a Windows 11-et, most jรกrok kรถrรผlbelรผl annรกl az รฉrdekes rรฉsznรฉl, hogy a TPM 2.0-รกs processzor-izรฉ egy Rufus nevลฑ programmal elvileg szoftveresen kivรกlthatรณ, meg hogy a windows 1125H iso-t kell beletรถlteni egy minimum 8 GB-os pendrive-ra
Well, I'm currently installing Windows 11, and I'm getting to the interesting part, where the TPM 2.0 processor chip can be replaced in software with a program called Rufus, and where the Windows 1125H ISO needs to be loaded onto a pendrive of at least 8 GB.
@personprofilefollowwrote:
kรฉsztetรฉst รฉrzek, hogy valami ilyesmivel (is) foglalkozzam, a kรณdolรกshoz egyelล‘re nincs agyam, de majd azt is szeretnรฉk, csak scripteket, semmi komoly programnyelv, de vรฉgรผlis a JavaScript is scriptnyelv
I feel the urge to do something like this, I don't have the brains for coding yet, but I would like to, just scripts, no serious programming languages, but after all, JavaScript is also a scripting language
@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogwrote:
mandelbrot #execnotesfollow for y in range(10): s='' for x in range(25): a=[] for q in range(2): z=c=x/25*3-2+1j*((y*2+q)/10-1);n=40 while n and abs(z)<2:z=z*z+c;n-=1 a+=[n<5] s+=" โ–€โ–„โ–ˆ"[a[0]+2*a[1]] print(s)
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@chanuxprofilefollowI ain't no nothing!replied to@prophetorit๐Ÿ’งprofilefollowgrand and intoxicating innocence:
I just realized watching TV series/movies is also something I dropped in the context of &4234
@chanuxprofilefollowwrote:
When I stopped having a job I completely lost interest of huge portion of things I used to have interest before. I could connect all of that to consumerism. And I haven't gained any of that interest back.
 It's partly filled with Youtube, admittedly with some slop allowed in.
@miqโ˜•profilefollowEternal disciple of impostor syndrome โˆ™ Perth, WA.wrote:
Ahoy denizens of textlog. Like the concept.
@personprofilefollowwrote:
a kis laptopnak pedig nincs elรฉg memรณriรกja, szรณval ezt a fล‘terminรกlt eredetileg programozรกsra vettem, azt nem tudom mรกr, mit akartam programozni vele, de pont รบgy zรบg, mint egy adatkรถzpont, รฉs hogyha egy kicsit korszerลฑsรญtem, a Gemma 4 LLM รฉppen visรญtva el fog tudni futni rajta
and the little laptop doesn't have enough memory, so I originally bought this main terminal for programming, I don't know what I wanted to program with it anymore, but it hums like a data center, and if I upgrade it a little, the Gemma 4 LLM will be able to run on it screaming
@procyon๐Ÿฆprofilefollowlate is the hour in which this conjuror chooses to appearreplied to@hippo๐Ÿฆ›profilefollowStrictly no LLMs. No exceptions.:
Using the internet these days is like pulling off an elaborate heist operation. Every time I successfully load a page I feel like I've "gotten away with something".
@hippo๐Ÿฆ›profilefollowStrictly no LLMs. No exceptions.replied to@procyon๐Ÿฆprofilefollowlate is the hour in which this conjuror chooses to appear:
It is sometimes tempting to mutter, "I'm in!" in your movie hacker voice when you finally get past all the cookie/subscription/notification pop-ups.
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