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@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.wrote:
So much present tense in #ainotesfollow generated prose. Terse, authoritative sentences, without breathing room, without hesitation or qualification. It jumps off the page, and not in a good way.
@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.:
What about the lack of density to paragraphs, the length of the sentences, or the confidence and determinism of their direction? Conviction with no limits. So reliably repetitive that you start seeing patterns as if you are looking and reading a record player with some scratches on it. Skips. Squeaks. Repeats. Yet. It gets the job done.
@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.replied to@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.:
Yet. It gets the job done. Here's where we disagree. Using these tools as part of the job, certainly. But if I am to read, discern meaning, analyze choices of diction and structure, consider the context both of the author and the audience, and finally derive value from the written word, then generative #ainotesfollow falls short on many levels. If the "job" is to produce something no one was ever intending to engage with, then we have a more fundamental question about the value of the job.
@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.:
Maybe what I messaged read as a disagreement and mentioning that they get the job done was actually not about producing prose (of any quality). I wholeheartedly agreed and still agree with you. Getting the job done was more about producing output - be it some prose, images, videos, software, whatever. They do generate output. It is not to say that the output is meaningful or meaningless. Some souls do enjoy it. Some others - donโ€™t. I did start with a question though.
@ku๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am kuwrote:
Never realized how much slow builds kill morale until I have to do multiple back to back ๐Ÿ˜”
@ku๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am kucontinued:
Nobody is complaining to me because I think they know they will be "voluntold" if they speak up ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ
@hippo๐Ÿฆ›profilefollowStrictly no LLMs. No exceptions.replied to@chanuxprofilefollowI ain't no nothing!:
Deterministic code generation is fine by me. Quite happy to use templating systems for example. Problems occur when randomness is introduced. If you can avoid that it should be less "icky".
@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.replied to@ku๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am ku:
Is it that you donโ€™t enjoy coffee, or you donโ€™t enjoy Starbucks? Iโ€™m not a fan of Starbucksโ€™ coffee myself, but do enjoy coffee I make at home or get from local coffee shops.
@ku๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am kureplied to@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.:
It is something silly made out of misheard lyrics from a Taylor Swift song. I usually drink instant coffee ๐Ÿฅน
@evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineerGitHubevnm - Overviewevnm has 51 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub., trail runnerStravaSignup for free to see more about LawrenceJoin Lawrence and get inspired for your next workout, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeownersgetonmain.comMain ยท A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.replied to(deleted account):
World's best off-by-one error
@onplanner๐Ÿ˜Žprofilefollowwrote:
The government welds your door shut and then outlaws starting a business and living in McMansions, cars, skyscrapers, and tiny homes. The governments bans body odor and then closes stores and bans delivery services. The state closes bathrooms and then outlaws public urination. The government closes the border and then arrests tourists for overstaying their visas.
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@evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineerGitHubevnm - Overviewevnm has 51 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub., trail runnerStravaSignup for free to see more about LawrenceJoin Lawrence and get inspired for your next workout, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeownersgetonmain.comMain ยท A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.wrote:
Built a couple lambdas today to send account verification and onboarding drip emails for folks who sign up for my app but donโ€™t make it all the way through the onboarding flow. Pretty cool to be able to quickly bang out self-contained infra for this instead of having to pay some SaaS vendor.
@radiocappy๐Ÿง™profilefollow"The impediment to action advances action, what stands in the way becomes the way." - Marcus Aureliuswrote:
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@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.wrote:
Certain modes of work are exhausting to the point of not being able to sleep, the mind is so wired.
@chanuxprofilefollowI ain't no nothing!wrote:
I have made this longer than usual, only because I have not had the time to make it shorter ~ Blaise Pascal So, should we all give AI agents more time so they'll write things shorter?
@0010011001011100profilefollow&\replied to@chanuxprofilefollowI ain't no nothing!:
Too much sound deafens us; too much light dazzles us; too great distance or proximity hinders our view. Too great length and too great brevity of discourse tends to obscurity; too much truth is paralyzing. - Blaise Pascal You reminded me of this other quote, from what I think might be my absolute favourite passage in B.Pascals Pensรฉes, thank you!
@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style contentwrote:
Who's enjoying #cnotesfollow in 2026? I'm back after ~14 years away (some sporadic once-in-a-while use in there) and I'm finding it better than ever, a smoother development experience and clearer code than pretty much every language out there, except for maybe #odinnotesfollow.
@swiley๐Ÿค”profilefollowswiley.net Try my zero dependency agent harness: public.swiley.net/agent.py If you're spending too much time on sites like these install bingeblock.comreplied to@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style content:
I get paid to write it if you can believe that.
@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style contentreplied to@swiley๐Ÿค”profilefollowswiley.net Try my zero dependency agent harness: public.swiley.net/agent.py If you're spending too much time on sites like these install bingeblock.com:
Considering how absolutely barren it seems out there in terms of C jobs versus C++ jobs, I can barely believe it. What do you work on?
@swiley๐Ÿค”profilefollowswiley.net Try my zero dependency agent harness: public.swiley.net/agent.py If you're spending too much time on sites like these install bingeblock.comreplied to@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style content:
Some specialized censors used in automated manufacturing. It's pretty cool, I look forward to coming into the office almost every day. I've worked for a few f500 companies and took a pay cut to come here. A bunch of people from my college robotics club work here too.
@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style contentreplied to@swiley๐Ÿค”profilefollowswiley.net Try my zero dependency agent harness: public.swiley.net/agent.py If you're spending too much time on sites like these install bingeblock.com:
That sounds really cool. Above all I really like hearing that someone enjoys their work and likes showing up for it. I've had that feeling on a few contracts and it's great. Looking to get into embedded myself, since it seems that's where you get to have all the fun writing C. :)
@ryansepassiprofilefollowreplied to@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style content:
#cnotesfollow has been such a pleasure. Havenโ€™t tried Odin, but was using #zignotesfollow for a while, and I just found myself pulled back to C. A minimal sharp tool. Runs anywhere. Can actually write a compiler for it. Short bootstrap chain from hex0. Does anybody care about these things (anymore)?
@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style contentreplied to@ryansepassiprofilefollow:
Support everywhere (in every way) was key to me starting to use C again. It's nice to not have to worry about the language you use being left out somewhere, a non-starter somewhere else and having to mentally translate it to something else (Zig/Odin in a debugger -> C).
@gbite๐Ÿ‘ฝprofilefollowwow dawgwrote:
how to use our time properly. i need to improve my productivity.
@melting_coffee_mug๐Ÿค”profilefollowreplied to@ajwad๐Ÿ˜Œprofilefollowdepth > hype:
there are reasons to procrastinate. sometimes you are not ready for a task and it has to ripen on the back of your had. sometimes you don't have structure and are not organised. sometimes you might be overwhelmed by too many tasks.
@itaprofilefollowreplied to@gbite๐Ÿ‘ฝprofilefollowwow dawg:
make a schedule and only try to get one or two things done per day. productivity is not about getting more done for the sake of it. it's about getting to what is important for you.
@austorprofilefollowwrote:
Team vim, team emacs, or team โ€œmy editor doesnโ€™t start warsโ€? One line, no essays. Go!
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@klumbering๐ŸคกprofilefollowFirst thing to say is, I hope the owners of Chatgpt Claude Gemini and Others gets bloodeagled for making their unwanted baby, anyways Hello =)wrote:
wow i didnt know that nope too late im already dead was made by one of favourite youtubers thats now like in the title, dead
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